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EB1
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Posted - 03/25/2010 :  20:15:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like this setup is working out fine. Is there a way to attach images? I can't find any.

EB
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tmt
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Posted - 03/25/2010 :  21:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, you have to host them somewhere and point the posts to them. Would like to see it!
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EB1
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Posted - 03/26/2010 :  21:26:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ironically, I don't have an easy way to do so.
Somewhere I have macro and twin-lite set.
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EB1
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Posted - 03/28/2010 :  22:21:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The lighting is awful, but you get the idea. http://tinyurl.com/ydgoez5

Normally there is 1x2" double strip of double-sided foam on top of the drive. I have to replace it every time the back is removed. There is also some of the foam under the drive.

EB
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tmt
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Posted - 03/29/2010 :  08:50:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks pretty good! What did you end up doing about the side opening?

I think it's interesting that your machine has cellular antennas even though there is a
regular modem installed. Those red and green wires with smt-type connectors directly
above the new drive. Is that what they are do you think? The mini-PCIe pads, without the
socket, are visible under the tape holding down the the twisted pair over to the RJ11
jack.

Tom.
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EB1
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Posted - 03/29/2010 :  20:04:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only know that the small cables are grounded coaxial. The blue one is particulalry strange. Both wires are soldered to the bracket that held in the optical drive.

One thing I don't like is that the sub board is supposed to be supported by a bracket that screws into the optical drive. Everything is wedged in enough to be secure though. I really lucked out with the bridge board size and placement.

There is an IC on a small socketed board hidden just below the tape on the SATA/IDE ribbon connector. Is it the BIOS, TPM or what?

EB
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EB1
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Posted - 03/29/2010 :  20:10:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt

Looks pretty good! What did you end up doing about the side opening?


I took the faceplate off of the UJ-862 and glued it to the back of the case. There is a small gap at the top, but that is better than attaching it to the main casing, which would hamper access to the Cardbus slot. It is too bad that I had to sacrifice the DVD-RAM. Maybe I could have purchased just the faceplate.

EB
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tmt
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Posted - 03/30/2010 :  07:11:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EB1

The blue one is particulalry strange. Both wires are soldered to the bracket that held in the optical drive.

The blue cable is the wifi MIMO element, with the 4965 part in your machine it's used
for receive only and using the existing metal is a common approach. The main/aux ones
are hooked up to true antennas and are the important ones.

quote:
There is an IC on a small socketed board hidden just below the tape on the SATA/IDE ribbon connector. Is it the BIOS, TPM or what?

Hard to say with the tape all over it. Neither of those devices is likely to be socketed.
Could be the BIOS I guess. Not the TPM, which is small and not something that should be
removed.

Tom.
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EB1
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Posted - 03/30/2010 :  21:58:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Argh! I bought two 640GB drives in a week and now today I see this one for sale now. I wonder if the advanced format drive will work?

EB
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tmt
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  08:30:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably, if you use it as the secondary drive. Windows fully supports the 4KB sectors.
The BIOS probably will have issues as a primary/boot though.

I'm sure you noted that the 1TB model is 12.5mm high and so won't fit here... 750GB ok.

Tom.
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tmt
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  08:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, I have a couple of suggestions next time you have things opened up. (I.e., when
you buy that new drive! )

1) Cut a rectangle of foam 3/8" thick and put it in the open space next to the drive in
the bay. Some dense closed-cell art foam would help protect the drive from moving and
filling the space will give the machine a more solid feeling, and keep it quieter.

2) Pop out the modem (if you don't use it), it's the square module just next to the wifi
card. It has a surface-type socket to the carrier board, and a 2-pin connector to the
RJ11. Leaving it out will save significant power, especially if you don't use the
Fujitsu ECO mode.

Tom.
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rahrahrachel
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  17:18:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tmt, i would love to buy one of what you made ready made.
I really need to look into getting my niece a HD bay.
I found out she only had 1GB left lol out of her 64GB SSD. I gave her an external but she doesn't like to use it. Getting a 128GB is too expensive. Also, she uses the dvd drive from time to time and want to keep it as it is.


Sony SZ71WN/C 2.5, 4GB, 128GB SSD
Sony TT SU9600 White, 4GB DDR3,128GB SSD, WWAN, HDMI.
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EB1
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  21:47:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt

By the way, I have a couple of suggestions next time you have things opened up. (I.e., when
you buy that new drive! )

1) Cut a rectangle of foam 3/8" thick and put it in the open space next to the drive in
the bay. Some dense closed-cell art foam would help protect the drive from moving and
filling the space will give the machine a more solid feeling, and keep it quieter.

2) Pop out the modem (if you don't use it), it's the square module just next to the wifi
card. It has a surface-type socket to the carrier board, and a 2-pin connector to the
RJ11. Leaving it out will save significant power, especially if you don't use the
Fujitsu ECO mode.

Tom.



I thought about that, but there is not much to attach the foam to. The frame around the Cardbus slot is flimsy, being a guide more than anything else. That's why I used the plastic part near the top of the socket for the double-faced foam. Are you recommending a type of foam that has hard sides?

I'm not sure how much power is used by the modem, and the extra drive must use power too. I use it on AC 99% of the time, so that is of no importance. I wish there were a 3-cell pack with the rest of the space used as an integrated power supply.

EB
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rahrahrachel
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  07:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found out my niece was joking about the HD space, well she got me.
Anyway, still I'm thinking about buying a pcmcia SSD.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260567314172&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

Or a CF->PCMCIA adapter and use one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PhotoFast-16GB-UDMA-366X-Ultra-Fast-CF-Card-Brand-New_W0QQitemZ120502025987QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_PDAsAccessories_MemoryCards?hash=item1c0e7aff03

or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PCMCIA-16GB-CF-Flash-Memory-Card-Type-I-CF-16GB-PCMCIA_W0QQitemZ300403055119QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45f16ada0f

It would work for this purposes just as well as another internal drive.

Sony SZ71WN/C 2.5, 4GB, 128GB SSD
Sony TT SU9600 White, 4GB DDR3,128GB SSD, WWAN, HDMI.

Edited by - rahrahrachel on 04/02/2010 08:09:57
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EB1
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  20:10:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt

By the way, I have a couple of suggestions next time you have things opened up. (I.e., when
you buy that new drive! )


The 750GB drive is on the way. I will pick it up tomorrow.

EB
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EB1
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  18:44:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt
quote:
There is an IC on a small socketed board hidden just below the tape on the SATA/IDE ribbon connector. Is it the BIOS, TPM or what?

Hard to say with the tape all over it. Neither of those devices is likely to be socketed.
Could be the BIOS I guess. Not the TPM, which is small and not something that should be
removed.

Tom.



Apparently it is the TPM, and I did remove it for examination. The socket is even smaller than the IC which is mounted on a very small board.

EB

Edited by - EB1 on 04/03/2010 18:57:04
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tmt
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  23:01:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting. It's soldered down on my P7230, and I can't imagine why you'd want to make
it removable from an operational standpoint. Must be in order to option it on the
Fujitsu hardware to keep inventory down. I notice the port replicator socket is on a
separate board too - also different from the P7230.

Tom.
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tmt
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  23:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rahrahrachel

Anyway, still I'm thinking about buying a pcmcia SSD.
...
Or a CF->PCMCIA adapter and use one of these

You're not going to like the results. It will perform poorly and when writing, you'll
get looooong pauses as the hardware scrambles to merge partial page writes. If you'll
use it for mostly read-only stuff (like the Benz uses it), then it will work ok, if
slowly.

Tom.
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EB1
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  23:32:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure what the TPM does in the Fujitsu, but I put it back.

Meanwhile the WD 750GB drive is a pain, what with all the alignment and breaking of programs.

EB
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tmt
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  10:12:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TPM is used to maintain security keys for programs such as certain types of corporate
login and encryption such as Bitlocker. You need to enable it in the BIOS, then initialize
it via various means, then use the programs that communicate with it. If you haven't
done any of these, then TPM is entirely optional.

As a secondary drive, you should just be able to install and initialize the advanced
format unit under Windows 7, without worrying about alignment and format issues. In
other words, Windows will take care of it for you. Did you find this didn't work?

Tom.

Edited by - tmt on 04/04/2010 10:15:44
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EB1
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  11:06:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The AF drive is the boot drive, not the secondary drive, so it is running XP.
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EB1
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Posted - 04/06/2010 :  21:37:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is working fine now.

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